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General Discussion / 2018 selective test results
« Last post by Peter on September 04, 2018, 02:03:12 AM »
A very strong set of results but the test was easy so the scores look like 5-10 points higher than those in 2017. All the first round offer entry scores for selective schools jumped higher between 5-10 points.
General Discussion / 2017 OC Results
« Last post by Peter on September 04, 2018, 01:59:17 AM »
A strong set of results for 2017.
General Discussion / Re: 2018 Scholarship List for Sydney
« Last post by Peter on March 07, 2017, 05:29:42 PM »
Hi Peter,

I am not sure how to start a new topic. By the way, is there the same website but aimed to Victoria SS?


Selective school prep is similar every where whether you are in any Australian state or even in the UK or US. In VIC they have 4 selective schools for year 9 to apply. So it's a bit later but the foundation will be the same. Kids should be strong since year 5-6 to have a chance. Also there are many schools running gifted classes internally and they also pick top students via a test or other kinds of assessment. You also have private schools offering scholarships and these tests are run by Australia-wide assessment agencies. They are pretty much the same across Australia. NSW is the biggest place in Australia when it comes to Selective schools and scholarship tests. So preparing for NSW level of competition can never go wrong any where else.

Some parents from other states have found their ways to my website. So I start to have users from other states. Apart from NSW which is my base, WA is another state where I get some people interested but I cannot see why this does not work for all Australian states. ACER (based in Melbourne) has contracts to run most of these tests across Australia.

General Discussion / Re: 2018 Scholarship List for Sydney
« Last post by debra0427 on March 07, 2017, 01:27:24 PM »
Hi Peter,

I am not sure how to start a new topic. By the way, is there the same website but aimed to Victoria SS?

General Discussion / 2018 Scholarship List for Sydney
« Last post by Peter on October 27, 2016, 09:42:23 PM »
2018 scholarship opportunities in Sydney
All Saints Grammar, Co-ed, Saturday, 25 February 2017, ACER Co-op
Ascham School, Girls, Saturday 11 February 2017, Academic Services
Cranbrook School Boys, Sat, 4 March 2017 Academic Services
International Grammar School, Co-ed Saturday 25 February 2017, ACER Co-op
MLC Girls Sat, Sat, 11 February 2017 ACER alternative
Newington Boys, Monday 13 February 2017 Academic Services
Our Lady of Mercy College, Parramatta Secondary Girls Sat, March 4, 2017 Academic Services
Penrith Anglican College Secondary Co-ed Sat, 25 February 2017 ACER Co-op
Presbyterian Ladies' College, Sat, 25 February 2017 ACER Co-op
Ravenswood School for Girls, Sat, Sat, 25 February 2017 ACER Co-op
Santa Sabina College Primary, Girls Sat, 25 February 2017 ACER Co-op
SCEGGS Girls, Sat, 25 February 2017 ACER Co-op
St George Christian School Co-ed, YET TO ANNOUNCED 2016
Sydney Grammar Boys, Sun, 12 February, 2017 Other/unknown
TARA School for Girls, Sat, 11 March 2017 EDU Test
The King’s School Boys, Sun, 19 February 2017 Other/Unknown
Arden Anglican School Secondary, Co-ed, REGISTRATIONS WILL OPEN IN NOVEMBER
Georges River Grammar Co-ed, YET TO ANNOUNCED

All Saints College Bathurst NSW 2795, Co-ed, Saturday, 25th February 2017, ACER Co-op
The Illawarra Grammar School Co-ed, Sat, 25 March 2017 ACER alternative

Search this website:

To find the elite private schools, go to, click on Scholarship & Selective school and look for private schools. Or just look for HSC ranking and find private schools among the top 250 schools.
General Discussion / News article about selective school pressure
« Last post by Peter on March 19, 2016, 01:25:09 AM »

This article looks at the extreme side of selective school culture. It makes sense to have a balance, and usually year 10 is where the race really starts. Therefore kids should be allowed to have a bit of fun between year 7-9. As long as the kids learn enough to do ok up to year 9, they will be fine if they really work hard from year 10. Kids here are encouraged to self-learn and parents' help is preferred to tutoring. It is better to have kids learning to self-study.
General Discussion / Resetting Narrative and Persuasive boards
« Last post by Peter on March 12, 2016, 10:36:29 PM »
The two boards have been archived and reset to allow year 5 students to start working on writing.

The year 6 students have now completed the selective test. Writing performance has been very good this year with students getting interviews for early scholarships. One student has been offered a 100% scholarship at a top boy school this week. More offers are expected to come in the next few weeks.

Only about 50% of the year 6 actually participated in the writing forum. The active students have improved enormously. After all, writing performance requires students to make an effort to write. Those who don't make an effort cannot improve. It is as simple as that.

Hopeful, the new group of year 5 students will be more active. Parents should encourage the kids to take writing very seriously. Writing is often the weakest area for all kids.
General Discussion / What is gifted education?
« Last post by Peter on March 09, 2016, 01:56:35 PM »

The NSW OC and selective programs are purely based on academic TALENTED students. It assumes that talented students are also gifted. Of course, this is true 99% of the time. The selective tests are placed at the level way beyond normal ability where even a school teacher will fail to score well. The tests have a wide variety of questions across maths, English, general ability and a writing task. How can a kid who do well in this huge test over 3 hours could be without superior memory, mental processing, logical reasoning and vast amount of knowledge?

Still it is important to understand that not all gifted students become talented, and actually a big percentage of them won't. They just don't have the chances to develop their gifts. They may not be living in the right kind of family or community that value their gifts. They may not have the support to develop their gifts. They may have some learning disabilities that stop them from developing their gifts.

And more importantly, for those that already have parental support and good environment to develop their gifts, they should be parented well so they understand and embrace the development of their gifts rather than going for useless but extremely addictive stuff such as computer games, TV, YouTube, eating junk foods, online chat, ...

Another thing that people "know" but often "avoid" talking about in Western culture is the lack of the basics. Gifted kids are often lazy and ignore the learning of the basics. Because they are smart, their gifts actually mask the lack of basics. They can score well by guessing the multiple choice questions or even come up with the right short answers without actually understand it. Therefore it is really harmful to think of gifted education as different than normal education. It is more useful to think about gifted education as cutting back on normal education (while still keeping the core),  and add a lot of advanced and challenging stuff to fit the needs of gifted kids. Taking the basics and help the kids to understand deeper is also part of education for the gifted kids. This is what many tend to overlook! The result is a poorly formed foundation and that is bad for their future learning at higher levels. So a lot just stop being talented when they get to higher years.
General Discussion / Getting ready for 2017 Selective Test
« Last post by Peter on March 08, 2016, 02:59:57 PM »
Year 6 are about to do the selective test and move on. It is time to look at year 5 students.

The writing forum has been archived and cleared out to start fresh. The work by year 6 students are still avaiable for all to read and learn from.

A new module called Writing Planner has been developed to help students memorise teh format for narrative and persuasive writing. This is to be used in conjunction with reading the writing guide to make sure students can write with 20 minutes limit and still havce all the elements of each writing genre.
General Discussion / Identification of gaps in year 3-4 maths
« Last post by Peter on February 29, 2016, 11:27:53 AM »
It is the nature of Australian primary school education to leave gaps in students at the foundation level. It is dead simple. When you leave the task of preparing teaching program  entirely to teachers, some teachers will not do well and the kids won't cover all what they should learn even if they are smart and more capable of learning everything thrown at them. This happens to gifted kids too as they move really fast and ignore stuff they don't like. The result are "cracks" at the foundation. If they are not repaired, the kids won't do well later when they face harder stuff and the stuff that requires a strong foundation.

A new module has been implement with most of the maths from Australian syllabus for stage 2 (year 3-4). A number of fairly strong year 4 and year 5 students have tried it and it reveals a lot of gaps! The module get students to attempt 238 questions in all strands and report on the gaps. This allows parents to quickly help the kids to fix the gaps (or find help for them). It could help kids to fix their gaps with a couple of weeks. For  year 3 students preparing for OC, this will really help them to enter OC preparation with a solid maths foundation.

Students can enter this module "Maths Gaps" from the section "More ..." and get the 10 tests done. A complete report is avail;able after having all 10 tests done. They can also do the Mathematics Gaps Identification series and access the report by going into the module later.

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